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Chadema is not my mother—Lissu threatens to leave if party loses its way

The Chadema Vice Chairman, Tundu Lissu (left), and the party’s chair, Freeman Mbowe: Photo: Courtesy

By Adonis Byemelwa

 In a charged discussion that gripped viewers on ITV’s "Dakika 45" on August 26, 2024, Tundu Lissu, the Vice Chairman of the Chama Cha Demokrasia na Maendeleo (Chadema), delivered a powerful message about his unwavering commitment to his party’s values. The former presidential candidate's words crackled with intensity as he candidly addressed a crowd eager to hear his take on Chadema’s future.

Lissu’s assertion that "Chadema is not my mother" reverberated through the conversation, reflecting a deep-seated belief that the party must adhere to the principles that initially drew him in. Speaking with equal passion, he emphasized that if Chadema were to stray from these foundational values, he would not hesitate to reconsider his allegiance. This declaration, made during the gripping "Dakika 45" interview, is set to stir significant debate and recalibrate the political discourse.

Lissu clarified that his statement wasn’t unprecedented, likening it to former President Julius Nyerere's remark about CCM not being his mother when he considered stepping down. He stressed that his words were often misunderstood. "I didn’t mean I wanted to leave Chadema or start a new party. I merely stated that Chadema is not my mother. Those who understood me knew exactly what I meant," Lissu explained.

Addressing the rumors about him wanting to start his party, Lissu explained that it would be nearly impossible to establish a new political party under the current conditions set by the Registrar of Political Parties.

 He remarked that the Registrar, under the current system, seems to wield power to suppress opposition parties, ensuring they don't thrive in a democratic space, while the ruling party, CCM, has enjoyed uninterrupted registration since its days as TANU.

"We, the opposition, are forced to endure endless queues just to register our parties, while CCM faces no such obstacles. They benefit from a legacy with TANU, enjoying registration by operation of the law, even if they stray from their principles. From the time of Judge George Bakari Liundi, Judge John Billy Tendwa, and now Judge Francis Mutungi since 2013, the pattern has remained the same—opposition parties have been systematically suppressed. How could I even start a party when it's evident that Mutungi would never approve its registration?" Lissu questioned.

He underlined his unwavering stance in defending the nation's interests, which has often led to him being quoted out of context, especially when he criticizes the corruption creeping into Chadema.

"I won't mince words. Yes, I noticed signs of corruption within my party, which is why I always insist that Peter Msigwa's concerns, who recently decamped to CCM, should be addressed with documents. I'm not the treasurer, but those in charge need to respond with facts and complete data," Lissu stated.

Lissu pointed out that during regional elections, he witnessed candidates displaying extraordinary wealth during campaigns, which raised his suspicion that the funds were not from the party, but obtained through dubious means.

"In a context where we struggle to raise funds even for transportation to meetings, seeking help from all quarters because party subsidies alone aren't enough, I know the party doesn't have this kind of money. So where did these people get it? I couldn't stay silent; I had to speak out," Lissu clarified.

When asked if he had ever been bribed, Lissu, who survived an assassination attempt in September 2017 where he was shot 16 times in broad daylight, revealed that the President's son, once offered him a large sum of money, which he rejected. He explained that the money was intended to soften his stance on speaking out against corrupt government leaders. "I was not being bribed to leave the party but to tone down my criticism of corrupt government officials," Lissu emphasized.

Regarding allegations that Chadema is responsible for inciting violence and disturbing the peace of the country, Lissu said that their protests have always led to their leaders being falsely accused and dragged to court, yet not a single case has ever reached a conclusion or resulted in a conviction.

"We have been demanding our rights and getting jailed repeatedly. Since the days of President Mkapa, I've had three cases against me, all of which were baseless. Then came Kikwete, who imprisoned me several times, but it was President Magufuli who detained me seven times. Despite this, I'm still the Vice Chairman, and my fellow members trust me," Lissu explained.

In all these cases, the judges never found any of Lissu's statements to be genuinely inflammatory, instead interpreting them as normal political rhetoric aimed at swaying voters. "You can't speak on a political platform like a pastor preaching in church. There has to be a clash of ideas, but our opponents have been interpreting this as incitement. I assure you, even during the fight for independence, Mwalimu Julius Kambarage Nyerere used rhetoric that the colonialists saw as incitement, yet he was still viewed as a politician seeking influence. This notion of fabricating incitement cases has troubled us greatly, and it's completely unacceptable," Lissu argued.

When asked about being labeled a puppet of foreign powers, Lissu dismissed it as a weak argument, noting that the ruling party, CCM, has long-standing friendships with communist countries like Cuba, China, and Russia.

 "Last year, the Chinese funded the construction of a college in Kibaha, Coast Region, specifically to train CCM leaders. But no one calls that foreign interference. If such infrastructure were funded by Chadema's foreign friends, there would be a huge outcry," Lissu said.

Lissu highlighted that Chadema has foreign friends who have been very supportive, especially in light of the new law requiring political parties to focus on gender and special groups. "We've already asked our friends to help us draft policies that incorporate these issues into our party's operations. And you saw what happened when we were harassed and beaten by the police in Mbeya on August 12, 2023. Our friends raised their voices in every corner, and every embassy was outraged. These are not foreign puppets, but when they stand up for Chadema, it becomes a problem," Lissu remarked.

Lissu strongly defended Chadema's internal democracy, emphasizing the fairness of their elections. "We've always competed fairly—that's why nearly five of our current zonal leaders are new, having unseated their predecessors through the ballot," he said.

Dismissing claims that Chairman Mbowe is unchallenged, Lissu recalled, "Cecil Mwambe, a former MP for Lindi, ran against Mbowe and lost. He later defected to CCM. The argument that we keep the same Chairman is very weak. Every party has its procedures, but you don’t hear anyone criticizing CUF’s Ibrahim Lipumba or from other parties; it's always Chadema."

Turning to the issue of party subsidies, Lissu pointed out the disparities in distribution. "Chadema meets the threshold for subsidies, but look at the scandal—CCM received 87% of the vote in 2020, and they claim the lion’s share of the subsidy without question. Chadema’s 17% was deducted, leaving just 5% for other parties. Where do these 5% funds go?" he questioned.

Lissu highlighted the uneven playing field, noting, "Any party with at least 5% support in parliamentary constituencies is eligible for a subsidy, yet CCM consistently receives the largest share. Meanwhile, smaller parties, which don’t even meet the threshold, somehow still get funded."

Lissu also criticized the irregularities in the allocation of special seats in parliament. "CCM is supposed to have 88 special seats, but they’ve ended up with 113. Where did these extra seats come from if not through irregularities in the parliamentary process?" he asked.

Regarding the upcoming local government elections, Lissu confirmed Chadema's participation but raised serious concerns about PO-RALG's handling of the process. "Local elections are incredibly tough," he explained.

"Voters are required to name and tick off other voters, but some people can’t read or write, and they're handed a long list. Moreover, the system is rigged—if you registered elsewhere, you can't vote in another neighborhood, which makes no sense technologically. The data should be controlled and verified by the Electoral Commission. I don’t know where we’re going wrong, but we will go to court," Lissu concluded.

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